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The other day in the car [livejournal.com profile] theophile and I heard that annoying but catchy song "Stuttering" where the refrain goes "so kiss me again cuz only you can stop the s-s-s-s-tuttering."

I said that the way the way the word "stuttering" is pronounced in that song is onomatopoeic. [livejournal.com profile] theophile vehemently disagreed. Your thoughts?

also a couple of new photos of Fionn, who will be turning one (!) in just a couple of weeks.

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Date: 2008-04-08 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
yeah, he looks like a little boy now, not an infant...it's so odd! his hair is pretty light, but I mean it's also sunlit in that photo. But it's significantly lighter than both mine and [livejournal.com profile] theophile's current haircolor. I dunno, I think [livejournal.com profile] theophile had light-ish hair as a baby. I always had very dark hair.

Date: 2008-04-10 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjmj.livejournal.com
I always had very dark hair.

maybe it is time for you to repost la petite chica with wee pnts and your son?

O/T: did you see this week's PBS NOVA with the story of the heroic anthropologists "breaking the Mayan code"?

Date: 2008-04-08 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightspore.livejournal.com
He continues to look like both of you.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
I kind of see it, in fragments.
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Date: 2008-04-08 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
so okay, ontologically it may not be onomatopoeia, but is it, still, functionally? I mean, can mimesis be functional onomatopoeia?

Date: 2008-04-08 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paracelsus.livejournal.com
It's an interesting thought, but seeing as a person can stutter over various sounds rather than just the one, it could only be an onomatopoeia of a particular case of stuttering over 's' (s-s-s-s), not stuttering as a general concept or a... err... a praxis. It'd also be relevant if you define onomatopoeia as a subset of mimesis, or as something different - so perhaps onomatopoeia is a functional mimesis.

What did Fionn think?

Date: 2008-04-08 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profundamente.livejournal.com
he looks like a surfer boy!

if people who stutter eventually pronounce the whole word, then it seems like it would be correct to say that way 'stuttering' is mentioned in the refrain is an example of onomatopoeia. i was listening to a 5 yr speak a few days back (she was stuttering a bit) and...to me, stuttering goes on until either the speaker or listener (both?) figure out the word that is trying to be said or gets said.

actually, the word itself, even without the 's-s-s' seems like an example of onomatopoeia. wonder what this word is in languages other than english...

Date: 2008-04-08 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
surfer boy? It's the necklace and the rumpled hair, isn't it?

w/r/t the song--that's what I was thinking, too. He sings "only you can stop the s-s-s-s-tuttering."

gorgeous baby!

Date: 2008-04-08 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dg76.livejournal.com
i totally thought surfer boy when i saw this too!

of course, i've been listening to too much jack johnson lately, so maybe i just have summer/beach on the brain.

Date: 2008-04-08 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
Whoa, he's a kid now, isn't he? And a gorgeous one!

Date: 2008-04-08 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
awww thank you! :)

Date: 2008-04-08 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zerodivide1101.livejournal.com
When did you find time to have a child with Jim Morrison

Date: 2008-04-08 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
what do you think is Jim Morrison-y about him?

Date: 2008-04-08 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zerodivide1101.livejournal.com
Hah, I guess it's just really the shirtless-with-bead-necklace thing actually. Maybe the hair a little.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
Fionn is definitely fatter. But also has an intense gaze.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kowboy.livejournal.com
From what I understand, Morrison was a chubby baby and remained so up through his college years. It wasn't until he started attending UCLA film school that he slimmed down.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zerodivide1101.livejournal.com
As if he were full of LSD

Is he full of LSD?

Date: 2008-04-08 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
he is full of Love, Sweetness, and Darlingness.

Date: 2008-04-09 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theophile.livejournal.com
guys I just noticed that if you read just the capital letters in the two comments above this it spells out acronyms for drugs, no word of a lie

Date: 2008-04-09 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zerodivide1101.livejournal.com
also if you queue up Dark Side of the Moon and play it just at the right time at the beginning of the Wizard of Oz, I WILL APPEAR TONIGHT UNDER YOUR BED, YOU WILL HEAR ME.... AND SEE ME FOR ONLY A SECOND....... BUT WITH MY KNIFE..... I WILL KILL YOU.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kowboy.livejournal.com
I've known a few people who stutter and I myself have a slight stammer I've learned to control. The people I know who stuttered would have been more likely to hold the "ess" sound out like they were hissing rather than punctuating the word with repetitions. So instead of "s-s-s-s-tuttering" it would sound like "sssssstut ... tering." The pause would generally come between two consonants although the "ess" and "eff" sounds would be more common to actually have a hard time vocalizing.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The thing is, for a baby, he has this intense smoldering expression and babies and smoldering usually don't go together, but it totally works for him. I advise him to keep at it. By the time he hits adolescence it's going to be deadly.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
Smoldering, hmmm. Also who is this?

Date: 2008-04-09 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twotoedsloth.livejournal.com
Twotoedsloth. Hmm. I didn't mean to be secretive, it just happened that way.

Date: 2008-04-08 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yanatonage.livejournal.com
What a handsome young man.

I used to pronounce his name "fee-on" every time I read it here, but then I was reading about Fionn Maccool on Wikipedia and a lightbulb went off in my head, and I felt silly.

Date: 2008-04-08 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapsedmodernist.livejournal.com
yep, that's who he was named after. Although I toyed with the idea of "Huckleberry" as a middle name.

!!!

Date: 2008-04-09 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amadea.livejournal.com
HAIR



HE HAZ IT

Date: 2008-04-09 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sissyhips.livejournal.com
Uh-oh...I think your Fionn is destined to be a lady-killer. He will play guitar. And surf. And leave them wanting morrrrrre.

Date: 2008-04-09 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberanya.livejournal.com
soo cute. love the hair!! (and the necklace). also, he looks very different at these two pics - more "ethnic" (tatar? :) on the first one

whoa

Date: 2008-04-17 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pazonada.livejournal.com
Have you heard the song SLUTTERING by Jawbreaker? I love that song. In other news, I can't believe your son is one. And I can't believe I have yet to meet him.

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